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  • CC2020 Database Feedback: English County Squads

    I'm currently encountering a bug with vBulletin that is stopping me from creating a new forum, so will put the threads here and then carry them over.

    Bowling speeds are:

    RM > RFM > RMF > RF

    If somebody should be a Chinaman, let me know.

    All squads should be accuracte as of 1st April and how the season should have been played out.

    Derbyshire:

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    Overseas: Sean Abbott (Main) Ben McDermott (20 Over)

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    Overseas: Bancroft (Main)

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    Essex:

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    Overseas: Siddle (Main), Zampa and Henriques (20 Over)

    Glamorgan:

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    Overseas: Labuschagne (Main)

    Gloucestershire:

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    Overseas: Pujara (Main), Qais Ahmad and Andrew Tye (20 Over)

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    • #3
      Hampshire:

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      Overseas: Nathan Lyon (Main), Shaheen Afridi (20 Over)

      Kent:

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      Overseas: Matt Henry (Main), Mohammad Nabi (20 Over)

      Lancashire:

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      Overseas: Watling (Main), Faulkner and Maxwell (20 Over)

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      • #4
        Leicestershire:

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        Overseas: Janneman Malan (Main)

        MIddlesex:

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        Overseas: Handscomb (Main), Mitchell Marsh and Mujeeb (20 Over)

        Northamptonshire:

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        Overseas: Fahim Ashraf (Main), Paul Stirling and Kieron Pollard (20 Over)

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        • #5
          Nottinghamshire:

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          Overseas: Mohammad Abbas (Main), Dan Christian (20 Over)

          Somerset:

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          Overseas: Babar Azam (Main), Corey Anderson (20 Over)

          Surrey:

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          Overseas: Michael Neser (Main), Shadab Khan and D'Arcy Short (20 Over)

          Sussex:

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          Overseas: Travis Head (Main), Rashid Khan (20 Over)

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            Warwickshire:

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            Overseas: Jeetan Patel (Main), Chris Green (20 Over)

            Worcestershire:

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            Overseas: Hamish Rutherford (Main), Ashton Turner (20 Over)

            Yorkshire:

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            Overseas: Keshav Maharaj (Main), Ravi Ashwin (Reserve), Nicholas Pooran (20 Over)

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            • #7
              Suggested edits for Hampshire:
              • Admittedly I haven't seen much of Came, but unsure if he should have an Agg rating, although he has only played one FC game. Maybe a drop down to Avg? Now Avg
              • Unsure why Donald is still called 'Nye' in the game, generally seems to go by his full name Fiddly for us to change as we have other code that uses names, so changing names can introduce bugs, so we'll leave this for you to change in-game.
              • Organ is another tricky one, seems to be inconsistent in terms of FC s/r's, Def may be accurate but certainly no higher than Avg. I think Def is fair for him.
              • Unsure on Rossouw, s/r's suggest Agg but the way he plays in real life is more V. Agg. Also no longer plays FC cricket for Hants, is on a white-ball contract only. I've retired Rossouw from all but Dom 20 Over, from this article it sounds clear he's just playing that now:

                https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...ame-lights-bpl
              • Think Soames is RM. Done
              • Vince hasn't opened in OD for a while, I'd argue he's just a T20 opener now Hmm, he opened for England in 6 ODIs in the last year, so will leave him as is for now.
              • Weatherley another tricky one, probably on the borderline between V. Def and Def Have left
              • Alsop has opened in one FC game in the last two years, don't think he should still be considered a FC opener. Definitely a OD opener though. Changed
              • Holland similar to Weatherley. Also opened for the second half of last season, though not sure if this would be enough to qualify as a FC opener in-game. CHanged to opener-all rounder
              • From experience in CC2019, Abbott is in need of a small upgrade to his bowling. Could just be me though of course. Abilities for all players have changed from last year. He looks pretty good to me at the moment.
              • Currie is an all-rounder and I'd argue Fuller (especially) and Barker (potentially) are as well. Changed Currie and Fuller. Left Barker, he's got a lot of Not-Outs, which inflates his average. He also bats at #9 normally.
              • Dale and Fuller both RMF. Changed
              • Wood has retired from FC cricket, if this hasn't already been implemented. Done
              • I believe Edwards is on a contract for all formats this year - was FC only last year so may or may not have been updated since. He's available in all-formats.

              Edit: Forgot to mention in my original feedback - Donald was expected to be out for the majority of the season with a knee injury.

              Will look at other teams at some point as well
              Last edited by Sureshot; 06-09-2020, 01:52 PM.

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              • #8
                Derbyshire:
                • du Plooy maybe changed to Avg? Based on his LA/20 Over S/R I agree.

                Durham:
                • Don't think Robson and Adair are still at the club.Hmm, can't find anything confirming they left or that they are still there. They both played last season, so think will leave them for now unless you've got some article showing they've left that I can't find?
                • P Coughlin probably just RFM Changed
                • Carse has been playing for England Lions and was named in England's training squad so will he be England-qualified in-game? Excellent feedback, he was still Kolpak, I've changed him to English qualified now.

                Essex:
                • Walter to be made at least Agg, also probably only LFM. Changed to LFM, his strike rate is borderline, not especially great in List A, so will be leaving as Average for now.

                Glamorgan:
                • Ingram on a white-ball only contract still I believe. Yes, but is retired from FC.
                • Smith RFM Changed

                Gloucs:
                • Pujara surely Def He seems to move between Def and Avg a lot, based on SR from last year, I agree, changed to Def.
                • Scott's OD s/r is very high but FC fairly low - Def may be a better compromise Based on last year's figures, I've gone for Average
                • Think Charlesworth bowls medium pace Based on videos, agree.
                • Lintott no longer contracted - also bowls SLW for if left uncontracted. Changed to SLW and made available.
                • Jack Taylor rarely seems to bowl any more, if at all, ever since his ban - might be worth making him a frontline batsman? I think that's fair, changed.
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                • #9
                  Hampshire:
                  see above

                  Kent:
                  • I'd have thought Bell-Drummond would be Avg - FC s/r of near 50 Bang on 50 SR in FC would just fall in to defensive category, but his List A SR is good and last year +1 was really good in 20 over, so changed to average.
                  • Nabi a tricky one - very high t20 s/r but avg in other formats Yep, 20 Over can really muddle up the aggression types, because everyone attacks in 20 Over. Left as is for now.
                  • Don't think Klaassen is quite LMF, probably just LFM Changed
                  • I'd say Viljoen should be Agg at least Changed to V Agg based on recent FC SR.
                  Lancs:
                  • Personally wouldn't have Croft lower than Avg Fair call, changed.
                  • Faulker maybe Agg? Doesn't play FC anymore, his OD/20 Over SRs are quite low, 120 in 20 Over and 64 last season in List A. Will leave as is.
                  • Wouldn't have R Jones as an opener Good spot, looks like he started out opening but hasn't in last 2 years.
                  • Disagree with Watling being a OD/T20 opener as well Agreed, doesn't look like he's opening at all any more.

                  Leics:
                  • Ben Mike bowls RFM Changed
                  • Looking at Swindells' career s/r's, Agg seems much too high (albeit hasn't played much) Always tough with small data samples, agreed though and changed to V Def.
                  • Griffiths bowls RFM Changed
                  • Tom Taylor's s/r is a tricky one - probably Def in FC but V. Agg in OD. Maybe Def more appropriate than V. Def. Agreed, changed to Def.

                  Middx:
                  • I'd argue Simpson should be Avg Fair call, FC SR is more defensive, but List A SR is good.
                  • Holden probably also Avg, based on s/r's in all formats (pretty high in T20) Tricky, his SR in FC last season was 30, but 51 the one before that. Decent List A SR recently, always tough with young players.
                  • Think Andersson is quicker than RM - probably RFM. Also an all-rounder. Changed to RFM and all-rounder.
                  • Would have said Cummins is RMF Changed
                  Northants:
                  • Cotton no longer at the club Made available
                  • Wouldn't have said Buck was as quick as RMF Agreed
                  • I'd always thought Levi was a OD opener as well as T20, but I could well be wrong Changed, opened in all of his LIst A appearances last season.
                  • G White is white-ball only Yes, retired from FC.
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                  • #10
                    Notts:
                    • I'd suggest Duckett should be just Agg - not quite V.Agg imo Disagree, his FC strike-rate is in the 70s.
                    • James probably RFM Changed
                    • Trego reduced to Agg Changed
                    • Fletcher's s/r differ massively across formats - I'd say Avg would be fair Changed
                    • I'd say Carter is Def Changed
                    • Abbas definitely not Agg with a FC s/r of 28 Good spot, changed
                    • Gurney only LFM Changed
                    • Clarke not a OD opener as far as I'm aware He opened in all his LA matches last season, season before he was predominantly a OD opener as well.
                    Somerset:
                    • Abell should have Avg aggression, has massively upped his s/r's recently Whilst his FC SR is Def, his OD SR has been good recently, in 20 Over last year especially. Changed.
                    • Byrom has an avg FC s/r but massive T20 s/r, maybe difficult to reflect this, but V. Agg is too far I think Tough to judge as his FC SR in 2018 was 38, in 2019 it was 78. 20over SR of nearly 200 last year. Has to be V Agg for now.
                    • Banton potentially V. Agg Not so sure, his FC and OD SRs are aggressive territory, good 20over SR recently, think will keep as agg for now.
                    • Gregory only RFM. Has also opened in T20 in the past though not sure if this is enough to count him as a proper T20 opener. Changed to RFM, not opened in 20 over in last two years.
                    • Corey Anderson hardly bowls any more, I'd say no longer an all-rounder Tricky one, still gets called all-rounder in recent articles. He didn't play much last season, looks like he's had injury issues. Will leave as is for now.
                    • In CC2019, Leach and Bess were almost always picked in Somerset's limited overs teams, never seems to happen irl. Leach has never played a T20 and his last List A match was in 2016. However, don't know if there is a way to do this without retiring them fully, which would be inaccurate of course. I have tools to get Leach not playing short formats. Bess plays a little bit.
                    • Wouldn't have said Ben Green is really an opener Tricky as he's only opened in FC, but have changed to normal all-rounder as looks like he was just filling in opening.
                    Surrey:
                    • Borthwick rarely seems to bowl these days I agree, this has been a debate in recent years, but bowled even less last year than the year before, just a middle order batsman now. ~22 Overs in 13 FC games last season.
                    • R Clarke maybe Agg, based on s/r's over last couple of years Generally his scoring in 2019 was slower than in 2018, will leave as Avg for now.
                    • Wouldn't have said Dernbach or Dunn are RMF Changed
                    • Plunkett's aggression could be higher Doesn't bat for long, often hard hitting at the end of maatches. Can hit the ball, but will leave as avg for now.
                    • Unsure if McKerr should be RF, but again could be wrong I understand he's pretty quick, perhaps we need a Surrey fan to confirm.
                    • Has Tom Curran's batting especially in the BBL been enough to consider him an all-rounder? I'm not convinced, his numbers get inflated by not-outs a bit, can certainly bat, but don't think he's in all-rounder category yet.
                    • Jacks' s/r's (maybe not T20) suggest more Agg than V. Agg Again tricky with a young player, I've moved him to Agg.
                    • Topley V. Def Changed

                    Sussex:
                    • Rawlins' s/r in other formats suggests at least Agg Agreed, he had some decent SRs last season.
                    • Wright maybe just Agg? Still V Agg for me
                    • Jenner doesn't have a county contract though should be left uncontracted Problem here is that Sussex only have Ben Brown as a keeper and I like to give counties two keepers, as it's a long old season. Do they have another keeper? I'm not sure I can see one.
                    • Jordan maybe Agg I think he's okay as avg for now.
                    • Beer definitely not Agg - more Def Agreed
                    • Barton hasn't played since 2017, probably shouldn't be part of the squad Made available to start of game.
                    • Doubt Meaker is still RF Hmm, used to be one of the fastest in England. Not seeing anything saying he's lost pace.
                    • Think this is already in-game but Mills only plays T20 It is indeed.
                    • Rashid Khan is most likely V. Agg Agreed
                    • Garton is an all-rounder and definitely not V. Def - at least Avg Changed to avg, he had a couple of good knocks last season, but was only at #9 for both, will leave as bowler for now.
                    • Jofra Archer - all-rounder debate? Not from what I've seen of him batting for England, again batting at #9 or 10.
                    • Don't agree with Head being an opener, nor Finch or van Zyl Agreed on Head, didn't open last year, only in a couple of OD games season before that. Agreed with Finch, he's moved away from opening as his career has progressed. van Zyl played in 5 20 Over matches last season and opened in all of them. Will keep him as a 20 over opener.
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                    • #11
                      Warks:
                      • Don't think Banks opens He's opened a bit, but seemed to settle at #6 last season, so have changed to middle order.
                      • Hain should be Avg to represent his huge success in OD format. Also pretty sure he's not an opener in any format. Opened quite a bit in the past, especially in OD (averages 60 at #2), but not recently. I'm going to leave defensive, I feel that fairly reflects his SR in all formats.
                      • Garrett RFM Changed
                      • Milnes no longer at the club, same with Wainman. Wainman also LFM. Milnes removed as he's now a former proffesional cricketer according to online sources. Made Wainman available and changed to LFM.
                      Worcs:
                      • Don't know when D'Oliveira last opened He opened for 9 innings in 2018, but averaged 9 so hasn't opened since...
                      • Libby arguably V. Def. Also don't think I've seen him open. He opened in 7 of 10 innings last year in FC. He's right between V Def and Def, FC SR was lower last season than season before (poor form probably accounting for that). His OD SRs keep him on Def for me.
                      • Whiteley maybe V. Agg? Possibly the same with Wessels though Agg seems fair. Agreed.
                      • Finch RFM. Haven't seen much of him, but career s/r would suggest he is far from Agg. Changed to v def and RFM
                      • Not sure I'd consider Leach a fully-fledged all-rounder He's batted up the order quite a bit, averages ~25 in FC and OD at #8. Will leave as is.

                      Yorkshire:
                      • Malan maybe Agg? Has had great success in limited overs in recent years. Tricky, in 2018 his SRs were low, good last year in 20 over, but I think he should be kept as avg for now.
                      • Should Pooran be higher than Agg? Think that's fair. I've also retired him from FC as he's played FC in 5 years.
                      • Thompson faster than RM Now RFM
                      • Olivier probably close to being RF Changed to RF.
                      • Maharaj seems close to being V. Agg Don't agree, left as is.
                      • Tattersall not an opener in any format. Changed.



                      All in all, looking good though, great work. Looking forward to the new release and hope this feedback helps

                      Your feedback has been fantastic, thank you.
                      Last edited by Sureshot; 06-09-2020, 05:03 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Agree with Yorkshire suggestions above. Also, Fisher and Pillans both RMF, they both bowl mid-high 80s. Brook should be aggressive I think and Coad should be an aggressive batsman, hit a fair few sixes in CC last year.

                        Changed Fisher and Pillans to RMF.

                        Agreed on Coad, solid SR in FC last two seasons.
                        Last edited by Sureshot; 06-09-2020, 05:06 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Kent

                          I would class Crawley as Aggressive He's right between the two, I think he's just about average still.
                          Bell-Drummond should most likely be Average aggression Changed
                          Dickson could be pushed down to Defensive aggression Agreed and changed
                          Viljoen batting aggression should be V.Agg Changed
                          Last edited by Sureshot; 06-09-2020, 05:13 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Could you provide screenshots of the 100 teams?. Just wondering how the game will process the "wildcard" 15th selection, or if youll be able to add more than 15 in the squad in game

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MateGaming View Post
                              [/LIST]Worcs:
                              • Don't know when D'Oliveira last opened
                              • Libby arguably V. Def. Also don't think I've seen him open.
                              • Whiteley maybe V. Agg? Possibly the same with Wessels though Agg seems fair.
                              • Finch RFM. Haven't seen much of him, but career s/r would suggest he is far from Agg.
                              • Not sure I'd consider Leach a fully-fledged all-rounder
                              few thoughts as a WCCC member

                              Cant say i know much in depth about Libby's Notts career, however he definitely has opened the batting in the past Libby will be opener.

                              D'Olivera - agree he isn't an opener - i initially remembered Rutherford came in to open and assumed that's why he wasn't opening, but Dell had the slot at the start of the season, followed by Wessels, before Rutherford came for the 2nd half. D'Olivera batted down at #7 whenever he played Removed D'Olivera as oepner.
                              Joe Leach is an all-rounder imo... ave 25 with the bat in FC/OD is plenty for me & often promotes himself up the order depending on situation. It's slightly misleading in terms of where he generally bats in games as we have few specialist bowlers and often technically bat down to 9/10 with (all be it not always well....) Agreed, Leach will stay all-rounder.
                              Whiteley - completely agree with V.Agg Changed
                              Wessels too - i would have said Agg for FC and v.agg for everything else, but as there's no option to change aggression per format then v.agg seems most fitting Changed to V Agg, SR of nearly 80 in FC last season.


                              Additions from me:
                              Missing player - Michell Stanley, signed a full contract for this year. He's a 19yo academy graduate RMF bowler. A decent prospect by all accounts but i haven't seen him myself Guh, I put him in the wrong W county! Changed to RMF.
                              Josh Tongue - would move him to RF... plagued by some injuries but fully fit he bowls spells over 90mph & is probably on par pace-wise with Ollie Stone & J.Overton (whether you agree with them being RF is another matter) Changed to RF.
                              Last edited by Sureshot; 06-09-2020, 05:16 PM.

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