What We Would Like In ICC2011

[Phylos Fett]

I think it would be nice to develop the run-outs area of the game. Not all driect hits, throws to non-strikers end, possibly some decisions going to the third umpire, etc..

There was a version that had the third umpire - buggered if I can remember which version off the top of my head, though...

[Themer]

Format specific roles and abilities. As thing currently are players such as Yardy are never going to reflected in the game very well at all.

County Cricket he's a pure batsmen while in the shorter stuff he's a bowler allrounder.

Very much like to see both the Australian and English leagues being simulated even if you select International career. Like wise Australian league simulated when you're playing in the County Championship.

Generation of players in the furture leads to bowling becoming way too dominant in OD matches, literally no one averages over 40 with the bat and there are a plethora of sub 20 bowlers.

[Chasjs]

Very much like to see both the Australian and English leagues being simulated even if you select International career. Like wise Australian league simulated when you're playing in the County Championship.

Agreed. Defiantly something that would improve the International Career mode.

[Machinax]

Sort of related, but sometimes the return is already on the way when batsmen start their third or fourth run. The keeper receives it while the batsman is still a few strides short of his ground, but is oblivious to the fact and makes no attempt to run him out. I'd rather lose a run than get one animated so ludicrously.

Hah, I've noticed this myself. Good point.

4. You should have the option to bring the keeper up to the stumps for seam bowlers of a certain pace. Maybe this one is a bit much.

This reminds me - I don't think I've ever seen a spinner going for four byes. This happens a lot in the real game, but in ICC, the ball always dies after it passes the keeper. That could happen too, of course, but I've never seen four byes being scored off a spinner.

[enigma]

I think Keepers give away far too many byes, that needs to be reduced somewhat.

It'd be a nice feature though to be able bring the keeper up for fm/mf/m bowlers WITHOUT giving away a truckload of byes.

And as another one of batsmen gets hit & goes down for 4 weeks, I'd to like reiterate that this needs to be reduced somewhat.

[Machinax]

I think Keepers give away far too many byes, that needs to be reduced somewhat.

I don't know if they give away too many byes in the game, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over keepers not giving away 4 byes to slow bowlers.

[enigma]

I don't know if they give away too many byes in the game, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over keepers not giving away 4 byes to slow bowlers.

It's not a question of it being a very important issue but rather a question of being realistic & although I haven't yet done any thorough research on this, I don't think keepers give away that many byes in real life. It's not a huge issue but it's very annoying. No-balls too, people don't bowl that many no-balls these days after the advent of free-hits (which has influenced Test/FC-bowling as well), except occasionally.

[cricfan1]

It's not a question of it being a very important issue but rather a question of being realistic & although I haven't yet done any thorough research on this, I don't think keepers give away that many byes in real life. It's not a huge issue but it's very annoying. No-balls too, people don't bowl that many no-balls these days after the advent of free-hits (which has influenced Test/FC-bowling as well), except occasionally.

so what do you think about Pakistan fielding thats not real

[Phylos Fett]

Format specific roles and abilities. As thing currently are players such as Yardy are never going to reflected in the game very well at all.

County Cricket he's a pure batsmen while in the shorter stuff he's a bowler allrounder.

That'd be nice.

I'd like to see something similar, perhaps with a players stats reflected thus:

[ICON F/C; ICON OD; ICON T20] PLAYER NAME

Bat Hand. Bowl Hand/Types - Domestic Sides & International Team - Age

PERSONAL DETAILS

Full name
Status
Born (Date and Place)
Contract
Salary

Debuts:

FC
OD
T20
Test
ODI
T20I

BATTING PREFERENCES

Opening/Upper/Lower Middle Order/Upper/Lower Tail End Batsman (FC, OD, T20)
Extremely/Very/Normal Aggressive/Defensive Style (FC, OD, T20)
Extremely/Very/Normal Fast/Slow Running Style
Spin Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Spin Bunny Spin Bowling Style
Pace Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Pace Bunny Pace Bowling Style
Back Foot Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Back Foot Bunny Back Foot Style
Front Foot Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Front Foot Bunny Front Foot Style
Off Side Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Off Side Bunny Off Side Style
Leg Side Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Leg Side Bunny Leg Side Style

BOWLING PREFERENCES

Opening/Change/Old Ball Bowler (FC - Add Power Play/Death Overs as options for OD, T20)
Extremely/Very/Normal Aggressive/Defensive Style (FC, OD, T20)
Accuracy Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Accuracy Bunny Accuracy Style
Out Swing Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Out Swing Bunny Out Swing Style
In Swing Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/In Swing Bunny In Swing Style
Yorker Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Yorker Bunny Yorker Style
Bouncer Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Bouncer Bunny Bouncer Style
Slower Ball Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Slower Ball Bunny Slower Ball Style
Reverse Swing Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Reverse Swing Bunny Reverse Swing Style
AND SO ON for different bowling styles/type.

FIELDING PREFERENCES

Slip Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Slip Bunny Slip Style
Infield Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Infield Bunny Infield Style
Outfield Specialist/Strong/Slight/No/Poor/Very Poor/Outfield Bunny Outfield Style

It would look something like this for an in-game player:

[Allrounder F/C; Opening Batsman Allrounder OD; Opening Batsman Allrounder T20] John Smith

RHB, RFM - Sussex, Queensland & Australia - Age 30

PERSONAL DETAILS

Full name John Smith
Status Fit to Play
Born 05/12/1981
Contract 1 year
Salary 100,000

Debuts:

FC 2001
OD 2001
T20 2001
Test 2003
ODI 2003
T20I 2003

BATTING PREFERENCES

Middle Order Batsman (FC), Opening Batsman (OD, T20)
Aggressive Style (FC), Extremelyl Aggressive Style (OD, T20)
Fast Running Style
No Spin Bowling Style
Strong Pace Bowling Style
Back Foot Specialist
Slight Front Foot Style
Strong Off Side Style
Leg Side Specialist

BOWLING PREFERENCES

Change Bowler (FC), Change and Death Overs Bowler (OD, T20)
Aggressive Style (FC), Very Defensive Style (OD, T20)
Strong Accuracy Style
Slight Out Swing Style
Poor In Swing Style
No Yorker Style
Slight Bouncer Style
Slower Ball Specialist
Reverse Swing Bunny

FIELDING PREFERENCES

Slip Specialist
Strong Infield Style
Strong Outfield Style

Yeah - I've been thinking a bit about it...

[ab5ides1]

An interesting and viable possibility. Well set out and thought out it seems. I'd vote for that set-up.

[bluey]

Definately the Indian Premier League, with an option to buy players for your IPL team, like bidding Against other franchises. More overseas playing in the English County Championship. Two players instead of one.

[Sureshot]

The rules of the domestic comps in the game will always reflect real life. There's a real life financial reason for the one player overseas limit, I'm getting an inkling of the two overseas T20 players being reduced for 2012 domestic season from ECB (as 2011 is identical to 2010).

Some good suggestions guys, some very in depth suggestions, Phylos...

[Machinax]

No-balls too, people don't bowl that many no-balls these days after the advent of free-hits (which has influenced Test/FC-bowling as well), except occasionally.

Or how about certain bowlers (or types of bowlers) more predisposed to bowling no-balls than other bowlers? I'm thinking of a Shoaib Akhtar-style bowler. But maybe you can make it interesting - he bowls lots of no-balls, but is deadly effective with pace. He'll beat the best batsmen in the world, but you risk illegal deliveries and free hits if you use him.

[Phylos Fett]

An interesting and viable possibility. Well set out and thought out it seems. I'd vote for that set-up.

Cheers, mate.

Some good suggestions guys, some very in depth suggestions, Phylos...

My post would have been much longer, and the example/template much larger if I'd decided to list all the spin variants, as well as expanded the fielding preferences to include more specific fielding locations (short leg, covers, gully, in the circle, boundary riders, and so forth) as well as areas of expertise (speed in the field, ability to restrict quick singles, arm strength of throwers, catching and throwing ability, etc.), not to mention wicketkeeping abilities...

[enigma]

Or how about certain bowlers (or types of bowlers) more predisposed to bowling no-balls than other bowlers? I'm thinking of a Shoaib Akhtar-style bowler. But maybe you can make it interesting - he bowls lots of no-balls, but is deadly effective with pace. He'll beat the best batsmen in the world, but you risk illegal deliveries and free hits if you use him.

Not a bad idea at all but I'd rather have certain individuals (as opposed to styles of bowlers) bowl no-balls & their profile should explicitly say so, so at least we know what we're getting ourselves into; this is basically because not all genuine fast bowlers necessarily have the habit of bowling no-balls (neither can it be said about any other particular style of bowling), for example, Michael Holding was a genuine quickey who was famous for NOT bowling no-balls, in fact, it often evoked suspicion from players & spectators alike if the umpire ever did call him

Anyways, I don't like this current thing of everyone bowling no-balls in the game; I've ended up taking some wickets on no-balls on a fair few occasions as well, that's really annoying, especially on a flat-pitch & when you really need wickets.