Please change scoring rates!

[anant_shah94]

I think that in T20 the game is pretty much spot on in terms of scoring rates, wickets etc, except I never have that one moment where someone can come in and hit 30 runs off 10 balls, yet other teams do.

In tests, the scores are far too low, and strike rates are a little low. If a team gets 300 in a test match in this game, that is an amazing score, and I can pretty much guarantee victory if I score 300+.

Philip Hughes has 16214 test runs in my game - yet he is only 33! That's 2000 more than the great Tendulkar! Yet how many centuries does he have? Just 44, 6 less than Tendulkar, and he has 93 half centuries. This is 34 more than Tendulkar.

In ODIs, one of my batsmen scores a century approximately every 30 games. This is very low, in real life a team has a centurion much more often than this. This is partially due to low ODI strike rates. If the team is only scoring 200 runs in an innings, what hope is there of an individual making a century? In fact, most of my batsmen have strike rates around 70. This appears to be sufficient for victory, but for Indian batsmen, playing on flat Indian pitches, this is very very low.

[siddle]

it seems like bowlers are far more powerful than batsmen in this game
if you play for say 10 or more years, the best bowlers will have tons of wickets at averages at around 20 or less, whereas the top batsmen usually will average around 40, with other regular batsmen averaging 30 or so

[anant_shah94]

Oh yeah, and when the pitch is 'excellent for spin' or 'excellent for bowlers' that seems to be the only time that the opposition are able to put on 500+ scores. The pitch I'm currently playing on is excellent for both pace and spin and South Africa is 400/3

WTF

[anant_shah94]

I just played an ODI, was about to get 300, then both my batsmen get out. one for 70, the other for 96. What is with this game and so many players getting out in the 90s? Seriously, now whenever my player enters the 90s, I always move him down to 2 bars of aggression. I was 188/2 and all out for 260. I wouldn't be angry, except for the fact that I haven't scored 300 in an ODI in about 10 years...

I hardly ever bat first in ODIs anymore, it's a recipe for disaster.

[Modernpro]

Is this game predetermined? or is the wickets and runs based on real settings i.e. how you set your field, aggressiveness etc?

[6ry4nj]

I can state categorically that results in this game are not predetermined. This is how you can prove it for yourself.

Save the game before each match. When you get a result you don't like, terminate the program using ctrl-alt-del/Task Manager (ie. without saving). Restart the program, reopen the same save and run the same game again. Use the "Skip Match" option to save time and aggravation. I'm confident that you will get a vastly different game. Certainly you might still lose (lol), but I can guarantee that many aspects of the game will be vastly different - probably including the victory margin. If not (or if you still don't like the result haha), repeat until you are satisfied that what I'm telling you is the truth.

[Themer]

Is this game predetermined? or is the wickets and runs based on real settings i.e. how you set your field, aggressiveness etc?

As 6ry4nj said the game is in no way predetermined. If you wanted to take it one step closer save a match after one over in and using the exact same setting play the day out repeatedly. It won't ever be exactly the same.

[Themer]

On the back of no statistical evidence I think there is a slight case for saying Test scores are a tad low as bowlers in the future have a tendency of being too good. Concur that the OD engine might need a slight rejigging as well as scores do tend to be a tad low albeit not by much.

[Modernpro]

Yeah it's always different however does your action (aggressiveness etc) really change the outcome of the game...?

[anant_shah94]

On the back of no statistical evidence I think there is a slight case for saying Test scores are a tad low as bowlers in the future have a tendency of being too good. Concur that the OD engine might need a slight rejigging as well as scores do tend to be a tad low albeit not by much.

Not by much? By a lot I think. I've won around 90% of the ODI's I've played. Yet the highest ODI strike rate of any of my players is 78. I'm India. In real life, if no Indian batsman had a strikerate of 78, then India would be pretty bad at ODI cricket.

Yet in the game you can be the best ODI team in the world with all your players having strikerates in the 60's and 70's. Because I try to bowl first whenever I can as this is the only way I win all my ODI's. And usually, the opposition gets about 180-230.

Remember - it's been 10 years in the game since I scored 300 in an ODI. I also suffer from awful batting collapses - like the top 3 will all make 50's, then everyone else will get a single digit score.

Yeah it's always different however does your action (aggressiveness etc) really change the outcome of the game...?

Yeah, if you put your batsmen on zero bars aggression in a T20, you can pretty much guarantee that they'll lose

[Themer]

Not by much? By a lot I think. I've won around 90% of the ODI's I've played. Yet the highest ODI strike rate of any of my players is 78. I'm India. In real life, if no Indian batsman had a strikerate of 78, then India would be pretty bad at ODI cricket.

Yet in the game you can be the best ODI team in the world with all your players having strikerates in the 60's and 70's. Because I try to bowl first whenever I can as this is the only way I win all my ODI's. And usually, the opposition gets about 180-230.

Remember - it's been 10 years in the game since I scored 300 in an ODI. I also suffer from awful batting collapses - like the top 3 will all make 50's, then everyone else will get a single digit score.



Yeah, if you put your batsmen on zero bars aggression in a T20, you can pretty much guarantee that they'll lose

I've never experienced anything like that ever in the game so as I said only a tad out. Most scores are around 220-250 for me with quite a few higher scores thrown in every now and again.

[batcarry]

is there any way that one may predict a compatitive score on a pitch while batting first in domestic season no matter how much runs i score in first innings the opposition seems to chase that down quite easily .... is batting second in ODs is the only way of winning it???? don't you think there should be atleast a text pitch report as to guide us that what score on this particular pitch would be good

[6ry4nj]

is there any way that one may predict a compatitive score on a pitch while batting first in domestic season no matter how much runs i score in first innings the opposition seems to chase that down quite easily .... is batting second in ODs is the only way of winning it???? don't you think there should be atleast a text pitch report as to guide us that what score on this particular pitch would be good

It is safe to assume there are no 'environmental' factors affecting your score other than the ones which the game tells you about (ie. outfield, bounce, turn, light, weather). When you are told it's a flat track with nothing in it for pace or spin, that's what it is. There are no secret gremlins. It's up to you to work out what constitutes a competitive score for a given combination of those factors. Personally I don't bother - I just push my team to make as much as it can, and hope it doesn't collapse in a heap. (But your way's good too...)

The rest is down to the relative strengths of the teams, the success of their tactics - and luck!

When I scored 300 and had the opposition chase it down fairly comfortably, I decided that my bowling tactics were too aggressive. I now bowl at zero-aggression in one-dayers, except to brand-new batsmen and total bunnies. Also the default fields are useless in limited-overs most of the time. When in doubt (about field placing), make it even more defensive than you already have.

[batcarry]

thanks bro for u advice i will try these things but i think alot of us here would agree that batting second in a one day encounter gives us more chance to win as you know when to score and when to block

[6ry4nj]

I can state categorically that results in this game are not predetermined

...however, to paraphrase Orwell, some are more predetermined than others.
And this might be one of those. I've just had another save - my fourth - complete the 2009 T20 World Cup (in ICC09 natch). Australia won it in three of them.