2012 Biased?

[nids]

Yeah, i actually know the stats and it's a matter of fact that guys like Duminy, De Villiers, Smith are rated much higher than Amla in the game. Infact even Warner has a much higher rating than Amla. It's shocking, makes you wonder whether the developers had been living under a rock that previous year. That's not even the worst of it. There isn't a single Aus bat who played the previous year with a rating lower than Michael Clarke. Infact, there isnt a single specialist batsman that played test cricket the previous year (2011) in the entire game with a lower ratting than Clarke. What makes this even more unacceptable is the fact that Clarke had scored 1167runs@ 68.65 with a highest of 329 the year before.
It doesnt end here. Dhoni is very underrated and there are many Indian players who have achieved nothing in real cricket who have ratings as high as and beyond even Cook. I'm not sure where the developers get their information from but i'm so glad there are logical people out there who have given us the ability to adjust these quite nonsensical ratings.
As far as bolwers go Broad is rated slightly better than Anderson and Finn while Swann isnt even in the picture. For Aus Pattison and Siddle are highly overrated and again, who we see and could see back then as the best in the world are very poorly rated Eg: Ajmal.
Anyway i could go on forever. There are countless more inexcusable errors. The only question I have is, who rates the players? Wouldn't it be wise to have someone knowledgeable about the game because from the looks of it, whoever did it last year really can't tell class when it's staring him in the face

[the_trademarc]

I think I need to side with Graham on this one- I've played 2012 for many, many hours, with all teams. I always seem to comfortably beat everyone with South Africa and struggle with England (especially in ODI and T20).

I will agree however some players aren't quite rated accordingly, Broad for one, Michael Clarke is another one, then there's the flip side with the overrated ones. I can only trust Nigel and Chris will address this for 2013.

Keep in mind that every Save is a new generated save, so no two saves will be same- one save may have Bopara and England dominating, the next one could have Warner and Australia dominating and England struggling.
That's the beauty of ICC, it has that unpredictability attached to it that we only see in reality.

Art imitating life.

[Graham_5000]

Anderson averaged 24 over the last 3 years which although isn't as good as Steyn or Philander, is very good. Anderson's overall average (like Morkel's) is less flattering courtesy of an inconsistent early career. I also find Kallis a little below par in the game - perhaps he can be improved and also made more injury prone?

I agree Broad is too good in the game. In real life he is terrible or ordinary for 6 or 7 tests then amazing for 3, then poor again etc!

Amla, Steyn and Philander are pretty amazing in my game! The "Proteas of the future" thread should ensure the depth in talent is accurate in the next game.

I think Nigel and Chris are committed to accuracy and I am sure there is no vendetta against SA. I cannot wait for the new game!

[delmeister]

Graham, can't agree with you. England went to SA and burgled a draw where we were dominated in three of the four tests, and only thanks to some very strange selection decisions did we escape. Talk about the SA bowling attack only being good once they got to England ... sorry, bowling Australia out for 47 with Philander destroying them? How easily we forget. Also, we were whitewashed by Pakistan 3-0, and lost a series in the Windies against a team that would struggle in county cricket. We only got to number one because we had a nice run against teams that refused to try and play against us. Everyone knew deep down that we hadn't really showed ourselves to be a true number one, and so it proved when SA came to our shores. For me, this game is biased against SA, it is ridiculous when Steyn can't take wickets yet pie chucker Broad rises to the top of the rankings. Only Anderson out of England's bowlers is good in real life, yet his average is still over 30!! Come on, they can easily bring out an update to redress the balance and make the game right. As it stands, it is just awful to play at the moment as England captain because I'm not challenged at all, and that sucks.

[Graham_5000]

I don't think the game is biased.. When the game was made a year ago, ENGLAND were no.1 in the world, not South Africa! I find England and South Africa fairly similar in quality - I'm sure South Africa will be the better team in the 2013 game - especially the bowling attack. Steyn and Philander have much better Strike rates and averages than Anderson and co, whilst Morne Morkel has an average and strike rate closer to Anderson's.

England are a quality team anyway - they beat India in India. As a South African, I hope we can do the same next time, but it is always tough in India!

As the game develops it is easier to win when managing England and a county as it is easier to identify the top regens. At the start of the 2012 northern hemisphere season the balance is about right, bearing in mind SA had not yet played England.

[delmeister]

Have played this game since first release, but only bought 2012 a week ago on ipad. Started as England skipper and destroyed SA, with absolute ease. Hmmm, now that shouldn't happen against the top nation in the world. So I switched and started a new game as SA. Again, struggled against England and lost, with Bopara (yes, that below average test player) scoring big hundreds against the best bowling attack. Really? Come on, what's going on?

So I thought, okay, it must be England being very good and unbeatable. Carried on into NZ series, and still SA struggled. Morkel and Steyn incapable of taking wickets, Kallis struggling to get to 30 runs. Even funnier, NZ easily getting past 400 every time at a crazy run rate, Watling scoring big hundreds as opener and even Ryder playing like a test veteran. Even Franklyn and Bracewell getting tons. Really?

My conclusion is that the SA team have been dampened down skills wise to help keep England at top of pile and winning. Has this been done because you need to get sales up? Totally ruined it for me with 2012, only worth playing county and forgetting internationals. I'd rather earn a tough series win against SA than watch them perform like Bangladesh!!